FORSTHUBER, Johannes

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From: dgudeman
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:33 PM
To: Roderick Schwald
Subject: Maria Barbara Schwald (1844)

Maria Barbara Schwald (1844) had an illegitimate daughter named Maria Barbara on January 19, 1864, in Kaltenbach.
She had a second illegitimate daughter in Kaltenbach on March 27, 1866, named Ernstina. On July 8, 1866, Johannes Forsthuber of Kaltenbach acknowledged that he was the father of Ernstina (inexplicity, shown as Verena Ernstina).
We can make the reasonable assumption that he was the father also of Maria Barbara (1864).
Johannes Forsthuber and his brother Johann Jacob exchanged favors. Each was a Godfather to illegitimate children fathered by the other. Johann Jacob later married Maria Katharina Lais of Kaltenbach, the mother of his illegitimate child.
On March 28, 1867, Johannes Forsthuber married Maria Barbara Schwald in Kaltenbach. They went on to have five more children, all born in Kaltenbach.
1. Albert--April 3, 1870 (Maria Katharina (Lais) Forsthuber was a Godmother.)
2. Ernst Friedrich--May 8, 1871 ( Jacob Friedrich Forsthuber and Johann Georg Forsthuber, two other brothers, were Godfathers.)
3. Emma--December 3, 1872 (Johann Georg Forsthuber was a Godfather.)
4. Albert Friedrich--May, 30, 1875 (Johann Georg Forsthuber was a Godfather.)
5. Anna Maria--May 26, 1877 (Johann Jacob Forsthuber was a Godfather.)
Maria Barbara (1844) died sometime after the birth of her last child; and Johannes Forsthuber married Maria Katharina Renk of
Kaltenbach (she was 16 years younger) on April 24, 1884.
Ernstina (1866) married Alexander Boetsch of Griesheim on February 24, 1887, in Kaltenbach.
Johannes Forsthuber and Maria Katharina Renk had a daughter named Sopfia in Kaltenbach.

The father of Karl Friedrich Schwald (1866) was never disclosed. Almost always the father of an illegitimate child was identified; and the father usually later married the mother. It is clear that the Schwald and Forsthuber families were very close. I have a sneaking suspicion that one of the Forsthuber brothers fathered Karl Friedrich (1866), most likely Jacob Friedrich, who to my knowledge, never married. But sneaking suspicions do not count in Genealogy research.

Have Copy of Original Marriage Record from Kaltenbach...from David Gudeman

Johannes married SCHWALD, Maria Barbara 28 Mar 1867, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Maria (daughter of SCHWALD, Johannes and PFUNDER, Maria Magdalena) was born 12 May 1844, Hofen, Loerrrach, Baden, Germany ; was christened 10 Jul 1845, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 26 May 1877, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was buried 28 May 1877, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]

1. SCHWALD FORSTHUBER, Marie Barbara was born 19 Jan 1864, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.
2. SCHWALD FORSTHUBER, Ernestine (Verena Ernstina) was born 29 Mar 1866, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.
3. FORSTHUBER, Sophia was born Abt. 7 Mar 1868, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.
4. FORSTHUBER, Albert was born 3 Apr 1870, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 7 Apr 1870, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.
5. FORSTHUBER, Ernst Friedrich was born 8 May 1871, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.
6. FORSTHUBER, Emma was born 3 Dec 1872, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 20 Oct 1874, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.
7. FORSTHUBER, Albert Friedrich was born 30 May 1875, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.
8. FORSTHUBER, Anna Maria was born 26 May 1877, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 19 Oct 1877, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.

Johannes married RENK, Maria Catharina "Katharina" 24 Apr 1884, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany. Maria was born 18 May 1857, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]

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Have Copy of Original1884 Marriage Record from Kaltenbach...from David Gudeman

1. FORSTHUBER, Sopfia "Sophia" was born 28 Apr 1891, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.

Notes:

Per Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB

Per Family Search
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/individual_record.asp?recid=51495018&lds=0
Johann FORSTHUBER (AFN: 23K6-NL1) Pedigree

Event(s):
Birth: 1 Jun 1802
Ried
Death: 28 Mar 1844
Kaltenbach, Csfr

Johann married WEISS, Catharina "Katharina" Barbara 25 Mar 1829, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Catharina was born 31 Mar 1807, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 27 Jul 1859, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Per Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB

Per Family Search
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/individual_record.asp?recid=51495018&lds=0
Johann FORSTHUBER (AFN: 23K6-NL1) Pedigree

Notes:

1. Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB

2. www.familysearch.org
Johann FORSTHUBER (AFN: 23K6-NL1)